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	<title>Comments on: Eating Idol Food</title>
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		<title>By: joshua</title>
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		<dc:creator>joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 04:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Adam.  I think you are right.

One could take a very strong stance and say that idols are anything that we rely on as a stand-in for the underlying reality, and thus impair ourselves from seeing God in his full clarity.  And the Romans and Greeks of antiquity often created and worshipped idols which didn&#039;t represent the supreme God, but instead were stand-ins for certain concepts, such as &quot;reason&quot; or &quot;love&quot;.  In fact, during the time that the apostle John wrote that &quot;God is Love&quot;, the Babylonians believed that &quot;Love is god&quot;, and worshipped her in the form of Ishtar.  Personally, I think it&#039;s best to be overly sensitive about idolatry, rather than complacent.

I think of &quot;worship&quot; as meaning, &quot;believe that your sustenance and survival comes from the thing, and thus seek to preserve and elevate it&quot;.  In that sense, the models I make are not intended to be worshipped, so I think you are right.

However, there are certainly large groups of people who believed that society&#039;s survival was born of &quot;financial innovation&quot;, or &quot;capitalism&quot;, or similar.  And the restriction on eating idol food was not about making sure that Christians kept away from idolatry, but to make sure that they didn&#039;t perpetuate and encourage idolatry in others by tying their nourishment to the idolatry of others.

As an example, if I accepted a contract from the author of http://originofwealth.com, or took a portion of my paycheck from helping investment funds implement and sell models based on this sort of faith in the &quot;goodness of the markets&quot;, I think that would constitute &quot;eating food that had been sacrificed to idols&quot;, because I would be receiving money that had been given by duped idolators out of an unreasonable and idolatrous faith in the markets.  I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve done anything like that, but I haven&#039;t been all too cautious, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Adam.  I think you are right.</p>
<p>One could take a very strong stance and say that idols are anything that we rely on as a stand-in for the underlying reality, and thus impair ourselves from seeing God in his full clarity.  And the Romans and Greeks of antiquity often created and worshipped idols which didn&#8217;t represent the supreme God, but instead were stand-ins for certain concepts, such as &#8220;reason&#8221; or &#8220;love&#8221;.  In fact, during the time that the apostle John wrote that &#8220;God is Love&#8221;, the Babylonians believed that &#8220;Love is god&#8221;, and worshipped her in the form of Ishtar.  Personally, I think it&#8217;s best to be overly sensitive about idolatry, rather than complacent.</p>
<p>I think of &#8220;worship&#8221; as meaning, &#8220;believe that your sustenance and survival comes from the thing, and thus seek to preserve and elevate it&#8221;.  In that sense, the models I make are not intended to be worshipped, so I think you are right.</p>
<p>However, there are certainly large groups of people who believed that society&#8217;s survival was born of &#8220;financial innovation&#8221;, or &#8220;capitalism&#8221;, or similar.  And the restriction on eating idol food was not about making sure that Christians kept away from idolatry, but to make sure that they didn&#8217;t perpetuate and encourage idolatry in others by tying their nourishment to the idolatry of others.</p>
<p>As an example, if I accepted a contract from the author of <a href="http://originofwealth.com" rel="nofollow">http://originofwealth.com</a>, or took a portion of my paycheck from helping investment funds implement and sell models based on this sort of faith in the &#8220;goodness of the markets&#8221;, I think that would constitute &#8220;eating food that had been sacrificed to idols&#8221;, because I would be receiving money that had been given by duped idolators out of an unreasonable and idolatrous faith in the markets.  I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve done anything like that, but I haven&#8217;t been all too cautious, either.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe I don&#039;t understand the definitition of idoltry, but it doesn&#039;t seem to me like you are guilty of it.  I thought idoltry was the worship of false ideas as God.  Unless you are making the models explicitly to be worshipped, then that would be idoltry.  A model of a mundane process, theory, or idea doesn&#039;t seem to count to me.  Would someone who made wooden toy trains be accused of idoltry?  No, because its a model of a train, not a model of God.

Am I missing something here?  How would any christian eat or pay rent in this day and age?  Abram refused to take all the king&#039;s riches, but he didn&#039;t refuse a fair share for soldiers.  Are they damned if they accept their share?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I don&#8217;t understand the definitition of idoltry, but it doesn&#8217;t seem to me like you are guilty of it.  I thought idoltry was the worship of false ideas as God.  Unless you are making the models explicitly to be worshipped, then that would be idoltry.  A model of a mundane process, theory, or idea doesn&#8217;t seem to count to me.  Would someone who made wooden toy trains be accused of idoltry?  No, because its a model of a train, not a model of God.</p>
<p>Am I missing something here?  How would any christian eat or pay rent in this day and age?  Abram refused to take all the king&#8217;s riches, but he didn&#8217;t refuse a fair share for soldiers.  Are they damned if they accept their share?</p>
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